Monday, April 5, 2010

Enough

Happy Easter!

Let's this over with.

I know I'm bound to piss someone off by saying this, so let's get it over with.

Gays! Out of the Church!

How can the molesting of boys being reported by the Church be staying at a steady level if there is so much going on to keep our youngsters "safe"?

Plus I'd like to ask people where is your outrage that this sort of perverted behavior continues to go on?

Here's something from The Catholic League

Catholic League president Bill Donohue comments on two news stories released today by the Associated Press:

One of the AP stories on priestly sexual abuse admits that "The overwhelming majority of the victims were adolescents. That means very few guilty priests were pedophiles, a term mental health professionals reserve for those who target pre-pubescent children." Fine. But then it says something which is positively remarkable: "Even though about 80 percent of victims were boys, the John Jay researchers and other experts on sex offenders say it does not mean the perpetrators were gay." So what would they be? Heterosexual?

The AP article relied on the extraordinary remark by Margaret Smith, a professor who worked on the John Jay study. She said that while Donohue "quoted the study's data correctly," I nonetheless "drew an unwarranted conclusion." What? That most of the molesters have been gay? Here is what she said: "The majority of the abusive acts were homosexual in nature. That participation in homosexual acts is not the same as sexual identity as a gay man." So if two men sodomize each other, no one really knows if this qualifies as gay sex. Now I must admit that when I was studying for my doctorate in sociology at NYU, they never taught me such logic.

Both AP stories say the reason why there were so many male victims is because the priests did not have access to girls as altar servers. Nonsense. There have been girl altar servers in some U.S. dioceses since 1983, and almost everywhere since 1994. The statistics actually show that the more priests have access to girls, the less likely it is for girls to be abused.

Here's the tally. As reported in 2004, between 1950 and 2002, 81 percent of the victims were male; in 2005, it stayed the same; in 2006, it dropped to 80 percent; in 2007, it climbed to 82 percent; in 2008, it jumped to 84 percent; and in 2009, it stayed at 84 percent.

In other words, even though priests have less access to males, homosexual priests are molesting them at a higher rate. It's time to end the gay cover-up once and for all.


9 comments:

Anonymous said...

Thank you for your willingness to confront this matter here in the blog. I agree with you (I think). I see a need here to talk about words. Words have been so well used to attack Holy Mother Church and destroy souls. 100 years ago sodomy was an act. At some point in the last century it was changed by the world to say homosexuality is a mental disorder a sickness. Then in the 1970's the world imposed the word gay on all things homosexual. The Church does not follow the world in the word evolution game. It is sad that many Catholics have followed the error of the world here but they have. So this causes a misunderstanding between the Church and the world. What does the Church teach? Homosexual Sodomy is a sexual act between members of the same sex and is always a disordered intrinsically evil act. In a word Mortal Sin (grave matter always) That said many persons find themselves with a attraction to members of the same sex a inclination which is not sinful as long as it is not acted on in thought word or deed. The inclination is not sinful but still disordered. Now the word game comes into play. How? When the world imposed the word gay on ALL things homosexual it is a trick with words. Well now Gay and person hood are linked in the mind of the world. John doe=Gay Gay=John doe. This also includes Chaste persons who fight the inclination of same sex attraction which is Virtue with the unrepentant sinner who follows the inclination of same sex attraction into action which is Vice. The Church does not know or use the term "gay" nor should she. If what you mean by "Gays! Out of the Church!" is the unrepentant homosexual activists who hide among the Priesthood and laity with the intent to change the Churches teaching and practice on sodomy being Mortal Sin and hope to one day have so called gay marriage in the Catholic Church. I agree with you. I would also say force could be used to remove these people if the Church called for it. However if you include all homosexual persons meaning those who fight it with the Sacraments, Penance and Prayer (just because you find them disgusting)I would not agree with you on that. By virtue of Baptism they have a right to the Church and her Sacraments however NOT THE PRIESTHOOD!. So I would use caution and orthodox language in dealing with the enemy within the Church. So what is the lesson here. Don't let the world set the language for the Church. Here is a good example the terms "liberal Catholics" vs "Conservative Catholics" this is error and the world has us if we allow them to frame our discussions as Catholics with American political words we will get beat every time. The correct terms are Orthodoxy vs.heterodoxy. But yes in Principal I agree with you get them out in what ever way is necessary that means in the light of true Justice and Charity. Thank you again for tackling the elephant in the sanctuary!
Pio

The Rockin' Traddy said...

Pio - We are surfing the same wave on this matter.

Anonymous said...

RT,
Now that I understand that we are on the same page. The second half of your post clearly brings up a few issues. 1) The vast majority of the cases of sexual abuse in the Church are cases of Homosexual men committing sexual acts with young men past the age of reason and post puberty. This is a Homosexual Priest abuse Crisis. Not a Pedophilia Priest abuse crisis. Pedophilia is a sexual act with a prepubescent child. Why does this matter? What is the difference? The Media framed this as a "Pedophilia Crisis" that is not factually accurate. It is true that a small number of the case were Pedophilia. The media called it a Pedophilia crisis for the shock value. Now in public people think priests are having sex with 5 year old's. Most of the crimes were Homosexuals hiding in the Priesthood and committing sexual acts with young men between 12-15 years old these were homosexual acts not Pedophilia! Were they crimes? Yes and I fully support them being defrocked and sent to prison.The larger and more important question is why now? Why bring the story back now? This story broke in 2002. We knew it was global and now all of a sudden in 2010 it's back being put out as if it is "Breaking News" this is an old story from 2002 and most of the cases are 30-40 years old. Could it be because it is a great distraction from the health care take over? Could it be so people don't ask where the bailout trillions are? Could it be Rome won't sign off on war in Iran? Could it be that the Pope is on record being against the naked body scanners going in airports around the world as attacking human dignity? I would just say this remember in the six months running up to the Iraq war in 2002 that was when the Crisis first broke.24/7 attacks on the Church. Pope John Paul II was on record being against the Iraq war. Was his voice weakened by the "Pedophilia crisis" then? Yup sure was.Now was that a accident? Not sure.Could it be the Pope's relationship with the SSPX and the lifting of the excommunications on the SSPX? Could it be the full freedom the Pope granted to the Latin Mass? My point is the Pope is doing something right and that is why this is back now. Don't fall for the distraction. Pray for the Pope daily. Just think why now? He is over the target. Just understand also The Catholic Church is the only Church that has officially condemned communism. Pray the Rosary!
Pio

Anonymous said...

Happy late Easter.

And if you want to be accurate, you should say "Gay Pedophiles/Ephebophiles! Out of the church!"

Fact: Not all gays are pedophiles and/or ephebophiles (which are adults attracted to older children like most of these are). Not all pedophiles/ephebophiles are gay.

That's just a fact.

Maybe the majority of these Catholic perpetrators were gay AND pedophiles/ephebophiles...I'm willing to buy that if that's what evidence shows. But gay is NOT synonymous with pedophile. There are plenty of heterosexual pedophiles, including straight ones, who still molest same-sex children. And those tons of men who go after 13-14 yr old girls...they're not necessarily gay. It's a whole other ball of wax being attracted to children...as opposed to fellow adults. this stupid myth that child molesting is a gay thing is wrong. Likewise there are plenty of gays who would never go perverted on a adolescent/child.

That being said, don't worry, I am getting very sick of this crap too. Sick of hearing yet another huge wave of children who were molested in the 60s and 70s, and of the priests/bishops/whatever who protected them and moved them into a place with MORE children. That's awful. What the hell were they thinking? Shouldn't they care MORE about preventing HARM, and less about...whatever...image? I don't even know. It's just simply inexcusable and very sad, sickening.

- L

The Rockin' Traddy said...

The majority of the victims are between 12 and 15 year old boys. That means GAY. Not pedos. Gays need to be purged from the priesthood and from positions of authority in the Church. That's all. Pretty simple!

Anonymous said...

No, it's really not simple. Do some research on child molestation. Ephebophiles.

Just one example I found in 2 seconds.

Just saying.

Plus, there could be plenty o' priests that secretly are attracted to other men...who don't end up molesting children/adolescents. We just don't know about them and never will.

- L

Anonymous said...

L,
I am glad to hear you are sick of these stories in the "news". Did you ever find the time to watch the videos I linked to in other comments? Also the book AA-1025 by Tan Books lays out part of how this was done by design. Did you get it? The reason I ask is the roots to all these problems in the Church go deep and if we hope to change them we need to understand what went on and what is going. Pray the Rosary also for the Holy Father and the whole Church. I guess my point about words did't sink in. Don't use the words of the enemy. Gay being at the top of that list. Rule number one of politics frame the argument! Example of good use of words on this topic: "Homosexual Priest abuse Crisis" & use words like "Homosexual" & "Sodomy" and alike.
Trust me words and the way they are used have great power. Think of what the enemies of the Church have done in changing just this one word "Charity" is now "love".
Think of all the false things done since the counsel in the name of love love love. Words have power.

Pio

Anonymous said...

Pio,

Okay, homosexual, not gay. You're right. My only point is that homosexuality is not synonymous with sexual predatory acts, what these priests were enacting in. Sexual predators are not specific to homosexuality, not even close. And to make the issue primarily about homosexuality is a mistake, I think. To me the biggest problem is the fact that the 'hierarchies' and whatnot protected the priest predators. Well, okay the perverted act is obviously bad enough, but to think that holy men in a position of power KNEW and then still covered it up is disturbing. (Which I know was the case when this all came out years ago, too).

I did watch about 1 and a half of those videos...the first one mostly... The one where he was talking about the antichrist and signs of it coming, etc. I'm not trying to be antagonistic here...but a lot of what he was saying sounded familiar, and I think the place I heard it was from the Mayan calendar! Lol. Which is not Catholic...but I'm not against overlapping, they could both be accurate I suppose. I looked up what this 2012 stuff was all about, and they had whole thing about how the calendar goes along with what others have said, prophets and whatnot, and also about Hitler being one of those big bad people...

Anyway...not sure I have a point. Maybe I'm hiding my head in the sand, but I guess I don't want to walk around in dread that all hell's going to break loose any day. I just try to live as Christlike as I can day to day, and do my best to spread compassion and good (when I can, of course I'm not perfect)...I suppose this all connects based on what you've read/looked up...but I don't know, getting too wrapped up in paranoia doesn't seem good either. But maybe to you it seems I'm turning a blind eye...?

- L

Anonymous said...

L,
I don't think we should make up our own facts in dealing with the abuse in the church. That said it is factual to call this what it is a Homosexual Priest abuse Crisis. Is it only that? no as you pointed out. The vast majority of cases are that so despite how the truth on the matter is taken by the world that is what it is. I say that from the perspective of a laymen in looking at how do we get to the root of the matter. The roots are moral, philosophical and Theological. Any healing and correction must first be based on truth not political tactics. Now to the issue of the videos I sent you please humor me and watch part 2,3 and 4 of those videos. Please in the name of Jesus stay away from the 2012 madness. That is not Catholic and very dangerous. If you choose to put your head in the sand then maybe you would do well to not discuss these matters. I say that because we have may layers here at play. Spiritual and Temporal both. If you are not willing to look at real information on matters because you "feel" like a paranoia nut or a doom and gloom type so be it. If your faith is strong you can handle what is going on. If you question your faith or it is wishy washy by all means stay away from some of these things. I would hate to see you in despair. I know this will sound nuts but our church in different ways and at different levels has been hijacked by Freemasons,other occultists, Communists and yes we have Satanic sects active in Rome inside the Vatican. That is not me talking it is the Chief exorcist of the Vatican who said this two weeks ago. He is on record saying this is so. He is a very Holy Priest and a Vatican insider. So I guess this is matter of how one wants to deal with the world. As it is or as we want it to be. Pray the Rosary for the Church please. God love you!

Pio