I don't know what topic they would debate, maybe ecumenism. I would pay money to see that.
Mother Angelica would take them both out though, don't you think?Good night, dear readers! :-)
Wednesday, April 13, 2011
Bambera VS Voris!
Would anyone like to see a debate between his Grace the Bishop of Scranton, and Michael Voris this weekend?
I don't know what topic they would debate, maybe ecumenism. I would pay money to see that.
Mother Angelica would take them both out though, don't you think?
Good night, dear readers! :-)
I don't know what topic they would debate, maybe ecumenism. I would pay money to see that.
Mother Angelica would take them both out though, don't you think?Good night, dear readers! :-)
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How about a debate between Voris and Justin Vacula? I might come and hear Voris speak, but I have work at 8PM :\
How about Rockin' Traddy and Justin Vacula?
I'm going to be appearing at various bookstores and locations in Northeastern Pennsylvania with author Kenny Luck. We're promoting his recent book, Nepatized!, and are signing copies. I'm going to be giving speeches about the second chapter in his book that features me and discusses the nativity incident. My next appearance is April 15 at 6PM at Borders in Dickson City.
I'm considering offering a debate challenge to the public, actually. I previously offered a school-wide challenge to King's College, but no member of the community accepted.
Morality comes from religion.
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The Christian God exists.
would be my two favorite topics. In both cases, I'd argue on the negative side.
I just watched the video of Voris explaining the situation between his planned speaking and subsequent silencing by the Diocese. I didn't know that Scranton contacted Detroit first. At least there was an effort made by Scranton to get some input before any rash decisions or appeasment of Marywood nuns. I'm at least happy to know this. What I'm trying to figure out is why Voris is not supported by Detroit. I know Archbishop Vigneron to be a very solid, militantly pro-life bishop. He's a defender of the Catholic Church protecting Her and his flock from secessionist groups up there. So I can't imagine that Arch. Vigneron actually disagrees with Voris, it may simply be that he doesn't know enough about Voris to support him. At least with Church officials, they are duty-bound to preach the teachings of the Church (I'm not so naive, however), so it's easier to give approval to ordained, religious, or lay employees. But to support a layman, even though his ministry is exactly what we need, is to support a movement that is not officially, as of yet, givin the blessing, or impra mater, of an ordinary. In any case, thank God for the work of Voris, but thank God for the virtue of obedience to Church hierarchy, without it every conscience runs rampant, conservative or liberal, it would get out of hand. Remember what Fr. Corapi says, "your superior or bishop may be a bozo, but listen to him, be obedient; you're not called to be a lone ranger for sake of your right opinion, you're called to be obedient. God works mysteriously through your obedience to the Church." Bl. Mother Theresa: "God isn't looking for you to be successful, He wants you to be faithful. You'll be amazed what He can do with broken vessels."
I'm not saying to continue this "fluffy, barney, happy Catholicism of relativism", but at least, for now, we need to pray for the Diocese, our Bishop, and the Church.
Debating is actually a highly ineffective means by which to arrive at the truth. Debating is popular because it satisfies the human desire to war against anything that encroaches upon our self-focus. In a debate, the primary objective is to prove one’s point. This contrasts with authentic dialogue, in which the Church teaches we should listen respectfully to the other’s position, attempting to deepen our understanding of their position, be it objectively right or wrong. The ultimate goal is to continually increase our communion with the other, until we both arrive at truth (or God’s will).
A debate only serves to prove who is a better debater.
My Mom and I used to watch Mother Angelica every week, she was amazing. Mother's favorite story was the one about the frog - You put the frog in a pot of hot water and it jumps out. You put a frog in a pot of cool water and slowly turn up the heat, he's cooked. This is sure an appropriate analogy for the state of the Catholic Church in the U.S. today.
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