Tuesday, April 12, 2011

My Response

Allright, so let's have a look at this letter from this post. The letter is from Father Brian Clarke, Vicar General on behalf of Bishop Bambera to the organizers of the Michael Voris talk.

After concerns regarding Mr. Voris were brought to the Bishop’s attention, we at the Diocese were asked to look into the situation. It was expressed to us by the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) that there have been a number of controversies which have occurred as a result of Mr. Voris’ presentations.

What were the specifics? If you are going to give public scandal you better back it up with exactly what the issues are, Father. This is a cowardly response and bad methodology. The USCCB has for years been taking money from faithful Catholics and giving it to pro-abortion causes through the CCHD, and let's not forget that RealCatholicTV helped to bring the USCCB and their support of this grave evil into the spotlight. So I'm guessing the USCCB would not consider themselves supporters of Mr. Voris or his work.

We next contacted Mr. Voris’ home diocese, the Archdiocese of Detroit, for their opinion. We were given a statement referring to St. Michael ’s Media and Real CatholicTV, both focusing on the opinions of Mr. Voris. Neither enterprise has been granted approval by the Archdiocese which referred to a lack of cooperation and issues of non-compliance with basic archdiocesan protocols as well as those of the USCCB.
Seriously? You contacted the Archdiocese of Detroit? The Archdiocese of Detroit has, since the beginning of St. Michael's Media been quietly, and in some cases loudly been working to discredit Mr. Voris and RealCatholicTV. If you want to read about the soap opera that is the Archdiocese of Detroit, go here. But be warned, it is a scandalous tale of heresy, homosexuality, and one of the worse cases of poor judgement by a Pope in history.

Since Mr. Voris’ own bishop has not given approval or endorsement to his opinions, allowing him to speak at a diocesan facility would imply that Bishop Bambera is endorsing his views.
These are not opinions, but Catholic teaching. If any one of you chancery guys spent 5 minutes to watch one of his episodes before you trashed his reputation you would know that. Bad form.

And my other question about this is did you chancery guys check with the USCCB about Sarah Bendoraitis? Did you check with her home diocese to find out if her work was supported by them? Are you saying then, that the Bishop supports the views of pro-abortion lesbian Sarah Bendoraitis to whom he did give permission to speak at the University of Scranton? It sounds that way to me.

...the Bishop has an obligation to safeguard Catholic teaching...
Well then he'd better get serious about it and really work to safeguard Catholic teaching, but personally I don't think he's up for the job. Or maybe he just needs a better staff making his decisions for him. Maybe if he'd watch an episode or two of RealCatholic TV he'd have a better idea of what that teaching actually is, that way he knows what he's safeguarding.

Plus there's no mention if Bishop Bambera has accepted the invitation of the organizers to come and hear Mr. Voris speak this Saturday. Maybe he can send Father Pilarz from the U, who served as the watchguard for the faith during the Sarah Bendoraitis talk, who just sat there and did nothing as she pushed her heretical views on Catholics at a Catholic University.

Maybe he'll go, since he did such a bang up job last time.


Mary said...

Your breakdown of the specific points mentioned by Fr. Clarke are spot on. I believe this is another example of our diocese falling into the "politically correct" mindset which has permeated secular culture.

While Ms. Bendoraitis holds views which are clearly against church teachings, her beliefs and statements are increasingly accepted by society as a whole. Mr. Voris may speak the truth, but is definitely not accepted by the "mainstream".

The diocese has spoken loud and clear on whom they wish to follow.

Anonymous said...

Great job, R.T. The diocese has no idea just how many of us share your conclusions. Keep up to great work.

Anonymous said...

I believe that this really is about Michael Voris. If you look at the Diocese of Scraton's Catholic Adult Faith Formation Resources and their links Catholic Spiritual Classics links you will see that they are very orthodox. Your statement about the USCCB is an example of how Michael Voris misleads. His CIAs are full of inaccuracies and untruths. I think the thing about how he speaks about other religions may be what he said about Jews which was not Catholic teaching at all. But I am speculating, I don't know for sure.

Anonymous said...

Bambera... the cafeteria catholic bishop


Anonymous said...

In the old traditional days you would have been thrown out for your disobedience to the bishop. Shut up and do what he says. You obviously did not grow up Catholic or you would understand what it means to be obedient.

Old Timer

Chad said...

Old timer.. I guess if we are supposed to shut up and do what Bishop Bambera says then we have to support prochoice views since he has no problem letting prochoice speakers speak in the Diocese. Obedience isn't binding when it leads one to sin. Since Bishop Bambera allowed a prochoice speaker to speak in the Diocese then according to his reasoning for banning Michael Voris he must agree with the prochoice speaker's view. The problem with the Church today is too many Bishops and Priests are leading the faithful down the wide road that leads to hell.

Anonymous said...

I am a Voris fan from Orlando, FL. I find it nearly funny that the diocese tried to quash Voris because of his views on other religions. It is true that Voris is unapologetically Catholic and disdains the Protestantism found in modern Catholicsm and the violece perpatrated by Muslims.

But the view that got him in trouble with his diocese, and with others, is the one on the religion of secular humanism and relativism and their main denomination: homosexuality. And that, dear reader, is the reason Voris got the hook. For some reason chanceries just don't want him talking about such things!

The Rockin' Traddy said...


You said

"I believe that this really is about Michael Voris. If you look at the Diocese of Scraton's Catholic Adult Faith Formation Resources and their links Catholic Spiritual Classics links you will see that they are very orthodox."

Can you provide the links you are referring to?

At the end of the day, it doesn't matter what links they provide it's what they say and what do that will show their true colors. I can stand here and pronounce "I am pro life", but if I secretly give money to groups that support abortion, then what conclusion can we come to? There is a big picture to be seen here, and it isn't pretty.

The Rockin' Traddy said...

Thanks Chad! You saved me some time and trouble. God Bless!

Anonymous said...

Dear Rockin,

I found this reference to the Christian faithful and pass it on to you and your readers in reference to Mr. Michael Voris and his Vortex videos:

"The Christian faithful are free to make known to the pastors of the Church their needs, especially spiritual ones, and their desires.
According to the knowledge, competence, and prestige which they possess, they have the right and even at times the duty to manifest to the sacred pastors their opinion on matters which pertain to the good of the Church and to make their opinion known to the rest of the Christian faithful, without prejudice to the integrity of faith and morals, with reverence toward their pastors, and attentive to common advantage and the dignity of persons."

This is from the CODE OF CANON LAW (Can 212:2,3) from


St. Mary's of Dorrance Parishioner

Anonymous said...

Rockin Traddy,
I found them by a google search. I don't really know how to link them to your site. I don't want to stir up any more trouble, but Michael Voris' video called Catholic and Homosexual says that God loves homosexuals more than other people and he created homosexuality to be a cross for victim souls. I feel that the diocese of Scranton should not have permitted the woman you talk of to speak but it was a different venue and it is a separate case. The bishop did express concern about her talk, also. I wish the bishop would go to Michael Voris' talk. I think he is really good when he sticks with Church teaching. He seems to be going off the rails, lately. Today's Vortex advises people to abandon the Church because some parish got a letter from an Earthday Network. His video "Here we go again" exagerated the findings of a group that is trying to end the CCHD collection in the fall. Yeah, it's controversial but no one has to give to it.